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Episode 2286: Seth Rogovoy on why A Complete Unknown, the new Dylan biopic, is a complete failure
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Dec. 28, 2024

Episode 2286: Seth Rogovoy on why A Complete Unknown, the new Dylan biopic, is a complete failure

As the author of the well-received Bob Dylan: Prophet Mystic Poet, Seth Rogovoy knows his Dylan. So his critical review of the A Complete Unknown , the much hyped new movie featuring Timothee Chamalat as a young Dylan, is worth noting. Rogovoy questions the whole point of the movie, arguing that nobody - neither enthusiasts nor newbies to Dylan - learn anything from A Complete Unknown . And as the music historian Rogovoy - whose latest historical biography is of George Harrison - explains, this ...
Episode 2285: Toby Walsh on the revolutionary promise and peril of AI in 2025
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Dec. 27, 2024

Episode 2285: Toby Walsh on the revolutionary promise and peril of AI in 2025

The Artificial Intelligence revolution has dwarfed everything else in tech during 2024. But according to Toby Walsh , author of the upcoming The Shortest History of AI , 2025 also promises to be a revolutionary year in the history of AI. The AI agents are coming, Walsh suggests, warning that 2025 might be the first year in which we will be able to quantify the job losses caused by smart machines. And then there’s regulation, the Australian based Walsh notes, predicting that in 2025 we are going ...
Episode 2284: Soli Ozel on the possibility of a 2025 "Pax Hebraica" in the Middle East
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Dec. 26, 2024

Episode 2284: Soli Ozel on the possibility of a 2025 "Pax Hebraica" in the Middle East

So what’s it to be in the Middle East in 2025: Mad Max style anarchy or a "Pax Hebraica" orchestrated from Israel? According to regional expert Soli Ozel , the Mad Max scenario is more likely - although, as he notes, many of us oversimplify the contemporary Middle East into false binaries such as the Sunni vs Shiite conflict or Iran vs the Arab world. That said, Ozel warns, the mostly cataclysmic 2024 history of the the region doesn’t bode well for 2025. Especially given America’s central role i...
Episode 2283: Jonathan Rauch's six key moments of 2024
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Dec. 25, 2024

Episode 2283: Jonathan Rauch's six key moments of 2024

Time waits for no one. As 2024 winds down, what are the key moments of a year that perhaps overpromised and underdelivered? According to the Brookings scholar Jonathan Rauch , six events in 2024 captured the year’s zeitgeist. There’s the November election and the tumult in the Middle East, of course. Then there’s the ongoing lawfare between Trump and the legal establishment as well as the Supreme Court’s creeping power. But Rauch ends his summary of 2024 more positively, finding two examples - o...
Episode 2282: Adam Kirsch on the nonsense of "Settler Colonialism"
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Dec. 24, 2024

Episode 2282: Adam Kirsch on the nonsense of "Settler Colonialism"

As both a much published poet and cultural critic, Adam Kirsch brings an etymological sensibility to the great issues of our day. In his new book, On Settler Colonialism , Kirsch excavates the nonsense now taken for granted by many academics about the supposedly twin intrinsic evils of American and Israeli history. Unlike the European colonialists in America, Kirsch reminds us, Jewish settlers in Palestine didn’t wipe out the “indigenous” peoples of the region. While that doesn’t necessarily exc...
Episode 2281: Parmy Olson on why Google DeepMind will trump OpenAI in 2025
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Dec. 23, 2024

Episode 2281: Parmy Olson on why Google DeepMind will trump OpenAI in 2025

Bloomberg columnist, Parmy Olson , won the FT Business Book of 2024 for Supremacy , her story of the race between Sam Altman’s OpenAI and Demis Hassabis’ Google DeepMind for control of the AI ecosystem. Given that Parmy Olson finished writing Supremacy at the end of 2023, I asked her what she would have added to her narrative with the hindsight of knowing what actually transpired in 2024. And what, exactly, does Olson expect to happen in 2025 - a year which will, no doubt, rival 2024 in determin...
Episode 2280: Who will win the multi trillion dollar race for AI supremacy in 2025?
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Dec. 22, 2024

Episode 2280: Who will win the multi trillion dollar race for AI supremacy in 2025?

Yesterday, we featured a conversation between Andrew and That Was the Week newsletter publisher Keith Teare looking back at the major tech events of 2024. Today, Andrew and Keith look forward to the upcoming year for big tech. What will be the fate of OpenAI, Anthropic, Google and Microsoft in 2025? And who, if anyone, will win the multi trillion dollar race for AI supremacy in 2025? Keith Teare is the founder and CEO of SignalRank Corporation. Previously, he was executive chairman at Accelerate...
Episode 2279: Why 2024 will be remembered as the year before 2025
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Dec. 21, 2024

Episode 2279: Why 2024 will be remembered as the year before 2025

So how will future historians think about 2024? In tech terms, 2024 will probably be remembered as the year when AI began to become ubiquitous. Although, as Keith Teare and Andrew discuss in this special 2024 edition of THAT WAS THE WEEK , only hardcore techies like Keith are currently making the use of AI central to their lives. For mainstream users like Andrew, AI in 2024 remained an abstract promise. More concretely, however, 2024 - in Trump’s gamble that the multi billionaires of Silicon Val...
Episode 2278: Max Stier on the Essential Value of the American Federal Government
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Dec. 20, 2024

Episode 2278: Max Stier on the Essential Value of the American Federal Government

As Elon Musk continues to plot, with Trumpian glee, against the American Federal government, it is important to remind ourselves of the essential value of this state bureaucracy. As the founding president and CEO of the Washington DC based Partnership for Public Service , Max Stier has spent the last quarter century focused on making American government more efficient and accountable. And Stier’s warning about the incoming administration is critically important. Yes, he acknowledges, some of Mus...
Episode 2277: From “Science” to Atrocity - The Seductive History of Eugenics
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Dec. 19, 2024

Episode 2277: From “Science” to Atrocity - The Seductive History of Eugenics

The supposed “science” of eugenics is one of the most dangerous myths of the modern age. As Erik Peterson, author of The Shortest History of Eugenics explains, it not only was used by Nazi thugs to justify the Final Solution, but also has been deployed by American racists to justify slavery and inequality. And today, in a brave new world increasingly shaped by advances in biotech, Peterson warns, eugenics persists, having adherents who mistakenly believe that it can be used for the betterment of...
Episode 2276: Byrne Hobart on Booms, Bubbles and the End of Stagnation
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Dec. 18, 2024

Episode 2276: Byrne Hobart on Booms, Bubbles and the End of Stagnation

There is a counter intuitive school of thought - represented by Tyler Cowen, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen - which suggests that America, for all its technological innovation, remains trapped by long term economic stagnation. So it’s no coincidence that the Austin based investor, consultant, and writer, Byrne Hobart ’s co-authored new book, Boom , comes with enthusiastic blurbs from Cowen, Thiel and Andreessen. If we are to escape our current stagnation, Hobart explained to me when we met in A...
Episode 2275: Jeff Jarvis on how the world has changed over the last 20 years
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Dec. 17, 2024

Episode 2275: Jeff Jarvis on how the world has changed over the last 20 years

The iconic DLD conference will be holding its twentieth annual event in Munich next month. Founded in January 2005, DLD has hosted many of the world’s leading tech thinkers and entrepreneurs from both Europe and the United States. What most distinguishes DLD, however, is its community of loyal regulars whose presence in Munich in January promises a degree of certainty in an increasingly uncertain world. One of the most loyal DLDers is Jeff Jarvis , the prolific tech gadfly, always to found in th...
Episode 2274: Bethanne Patrick's Favorite Non-Fiction Books of 2024
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Dec. 16, 2024

Episode 2274: Bethanne Patrick's Favorite Non-Fiction Books of 2024

Yesterday, we ran Bethanne Patrick’s five best novels of 2024. Today, we feature her top non-fiction of the year including new books about reality television, Robert Louis Stevenson’s wife and Handel's Messiah. ‘Tis the season. Enjoy! Keen On is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Bethanne Patrick maintains a storied place in the publishing industry as a critic and as @TheBookMaven on Twitter, where she created th...
Episode 2273: Bethanne Patrick's Best Five Favorite Novels of 2024
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Dec. 15, 2024

Episode 2273: Bethanne Patrick's Best Five Favorite Novels of 2024

Pity the novelist. In a year which brought us the unbelievable non-fiction of a second Trump victory and the establishment of Luigi Mangione as an American folk hero, what can novelists do to stretch our imagination? But according to the LA Times literary critic, Bethanne Patrick , novelists do, indeed, still have something to tell us. And to make her case, she discusses her five favorite works of fiction of 2024 from masterful novelists like Percival Everett, Yael van der Wouden and Danzy Senna...
Episode 2272: Mark Lilla on why ignorance is bliss
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Dec. 14, 2024

Episode 2272: Mark Lilla on why ignorance is bliss

For all the hysteria about misinformation and disinformation, maybe we prefer ignorance. That’s the intriguing thesis of the illustrious Columbia University intellectual historian, Mark Lilla, in his new book, Ignorance is Bliss. It all begins, of course, inside Plato’s cave in his Republic , that metaphorical preface to Western thought where we are subjected to illusionary shadows and delusional reflections. And, for Lilla at least, it may end in the America of late 2024, where many of us appea...
Episode 2271: Keith Teare on why he's fallen in love with Elon Musk
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Dec. 13, 2024

Episode 2271: Keith Teare on why he's fallen in love with Elon Musk

It’s been coming a while. But now it’s official. Keith Teare has declared his love for Elon Musk. In this week’s THAT WAS THE WEEK newsletter, suitably entitled “ I’m With Musk ”, Keith argues that without Musk “I have no idea what a positive narrative about modernization and growth would be.” America, Keith argues, needs “builders” like Musk who will enable “a real conversation about change”. I’m more ambivalent, but then Ambivalence is my middle name. While I agree with Keith that Musk has bee...
Episode 2270: Craig Garnett on May 24, 2022 - Uvalde's Darkest Hour
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Dec. 12, 2024

Episode 2270: Craig Garnett on May 24, 2022 - Uvalde's Darkest Hour

On May 24, 2022, a 18 year-old walked into Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas and shot to death 19 students and 2 teachers. In Uvalde’s Darkest Hour , the owner of the local Uvalde Leader-News , Craig Garnett tries to make sense of these tragic events. Although making sense might be the wrong words to describe either the book or Garnett himself. While this mass murder occurred more than two years ago, the stoical Garnett still appears frozen in a kind of uncomprehending grief in the face of...
Episode 2269: Michael Sayman looks forward to an AI age in which all our online interactions are with bots
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Dec. 11, 2024

Episode 2269: Michael Sayman looks forward to an AI age in which all our online interactions are with bots

While many of us fear a future in which all our online interactions are with algorithms, the young Florida based programming prodigy, Michael Sayman , actually looks forward to this brave new world. In fact, earlier this year he started a controversial social media app called SocialAI which exclusively feature bots responding to its human users. For Sayman, our ubiquitous interaction with smart machines is the inevitable future of the internet and so we should embrace it. It’s a generational thi...
Episode 2268: David Rowell on how new technology is making us dislike new music
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Dec. 10, 2024

Episode 2268: David Rowell on how new technology is making us dislike new music

Yesterday, we featured a conversation with Jonathan Taplin about the dearth of high quality contemporary music and movies. The music writer, David Rowell , agrees with Taplin, but goes one step further, suggesting that we no longer even like new music. In his new book, The Endless Refrain , Rowell the rise of music streaming and the consolidation of digital platforms has so decimated the musical landscape that all we want to listen to now are the old hits of our youth. New music then, for Rowell...
Episode 2267: Jonathan Taplin on the coming cultural renaissance in America
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Dec. 9, 2024

Episode 2267: Jonathan Taplin on the coming cultural renaissance in America

A few months ago, I interviewed David Leonhardt , author of Ours Was the Shining Future, about the death of the American dream which, he argued, can be dated from on 5 June 1968 when Bobby Kennedy was assassinated. And it’s on that infamous date that I begun my conversation with Jonathan Taplin about the rebirth of the American dream. According to the Los Angeles based Taplin, who is now working on a book about an upcoming renaissance of American culture, the vehicle for a revitalized United St...
Episode 2266: Mr Musk, Mr Sacks and Mr Andreessen go to Washington
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Dec. 8, 2024

Episode 2266: Mr Musk, Mr Sacks and Mr Andreessen go to Washington

On the week that the price of Bitcoin rose above $100,000 and Trump appointed David Sacks as his “AI and Crypto Czar”, has Silicon Valley finally succeeded in conquering Washington DC? In today’s That Was The Week summary of tech news, Keith Teare and Andrew review what appears to be a tectonic shift in power between Silicon Valley and Washington DC. Are “right-wing” Trump supporters like Sacks, Elon Musk and Mark Andreessen being invited to Washington by the MAGA movement to ransack the Federal...
Episode 2265: Jeff Jarvis on how to reclaim the internet from moguls, misanthropes and moral panics
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Dec. 7, 2024

Episode 2265: Jeff Jarvis on how to reclaim the internet from moguls, misanthropes and moral panics

Yesterday, we featured a conversation with Mozilla co-founder and Internet Hall of Famer, Mitchell Baker, one of the great champions of an open web. Today’s guest, the prolific writer and journalist Jeff Jarvis , is another leading defender of the internet. In his new book, The Web We Weave , Jarvis explains how we can reclaim the internet from moguls, misanthropes and moral panics. The Web, Jarvis argues, is a mirror of all the best and worst aspects of society. It’s us. So only we can reclaim ...
Episode 2265: Internet Hall of Famer, Mitchell Baker, on the promise of an Open Web
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Dec. 6, 2024

Episode 2265: Internet Hall of Famer, Mitchell Baker, on the promise of an Open Web

Few people deserve their place in the Internet Hall of Fame than Mozilla Chairwoman Mitchell Baker . Since co-founding the Mozilla Project in the late Nineties, Baker has been one of the most consistent and articulate champions of an open internet. So looking back over the last quarter century, what does Baker make of the history of online freedom? And is she hopeful that new technologies like AI can regenerate the promise of an open internet? Mitchell Baker co-founded the Mozilla Project to sup...
Episode 2264: Robert Pearl demystifies the RFK Jr nomination for Secretary of Health and Human Services
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Dec. 5, 2024

Episode 2264: Robert Pearl demystifies the RFK Jr nomination for Secretary of Health and Human Services

Few people are better at demystifying the byzantine complexities of the American healthcare system than the former CEO of Kaiser Permanente, Robert Pearl , MD. So what does Pearl make of Trump’s nomination of RFK Jr for Secretary of Health and Human Services? Is this a thinly veiled excuse to go to war with the current American healthcare system? Or does RFK Jr really have the acuity to responsibly reform a system in desperate need of reinvention? For 18 years, ROBERT PEARL, MD served as CEO of ...