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Episode 2247: Andrew Cockburn on Trump and Musk's Futile War Against the Deep State
Feb. 24, 2025

Episode 2247: Andrew Cockburn on Trump and Musk's Futile War Against …

Not everyone sees Trump or Musk as an existential threat to the American federal bureaucracy. In the March cover story of Harper’s , their Washington DC editor Andrew Cockburn argues that this latest war against the American ...

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Episode 2246: Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a carnival of hypocrisy
Feb. 23, 2025

Episode 2246: Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a carnival of hypocrisy

Given the shameful American sacrifice of Ukraine, there will be few timelier movies than Anna Kryvenko’s upcoming “ This House is Undamaged ”,. It will be an Orwellian documentary examining the Russian destruction of Mariupol...

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Episode 2245: Is it really "not hard" to be a billionaire these days?
Feb. 22, 2025

Episode 2245: Is it really "not hard" to be a billionaire these days?

Lots of healthy disagreement in this week’s THAT WAS THE WEEK tech show with Keith Teare . We debate the impact of AI on coding jobs, with Keith suggesting that while traditional coding skills may become less important, syste...

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Episode 2244: Tim Wu on how to decentralize capitalism
Feb. 21, 2025

Episode 2244: Tim Wu on how to decentralize capitalism

Why is reforming capitalism so essential? In the latest issue of Liberties Quarterly , Tim Wu argues that unregulated capitalism not only leads to economic monopolies, but also drives populist anger and authoritarian politics...

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Episode 2243: Nick Bryant on why Trump 2.0 is as historic as the Fall of the Berlin Wall
Feb. 20, 2025

Episode 2243: Nick Bryant on why Trump 2.0 is as historic as the Fall…

How historic are Trump 2.0’s first few weeks? For the veteran correspondent, Nick Bryant , the longtime BBC man in Washington DC, what the Trump regime has done in the first few weeks of his second administration is as histor...

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Episode 2242: Ian Goldin on the past, present and future of migration
Feb. 19, 2025

Episode 2242: Ian Goldin on the past, present and future of migration

Few books are timelier than Ian Goldin ’s new The Shortest History of Migration . Drawing from his personal history as a South African emigrant and his experience working with Nelson Mandela, the Oxford based Goldin explores ...

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Episode 2241: Gaia Bernstein on the Threat of AI Companions to Children
Feb. 18, 2025

Episode 2241: Gaia Bernstein on the Threat of AI Companions to Childr…

No, social media might no longer be the greatest danger to our children’s well-being. According to the writer and digital activist Gaia Bernstein , the most existential new new threat are AI companions. Bernstein, who is orga...

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Episode 2240: Ray Brescia on how our private lives have been politicized by social media
Feb. 17, 2025

Episode 2240: Ray Brescia on how our private lives have been politici…

Have our private lives become inevitably political in today’s age of social media? Ray Brescia certainly thinks so. His new book, The Private is Political , examines how tech companies surveil and influence users in today’s a...

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Episode 2239: Frank Vogl on why Trump's financial deregulation is likely to lead to another global economic crash
Feb. 16, 2025

Episode 2239: Frank Vogl on why Trump's financial deregulation is lik…

The zealously anti-regulatory Trump is back and anti-corruption activist Frank Vogl is very worried. Vogl warns that MAGA’s increasingly deregulated America financial landscape could make the 2008 crash look like a minor bump...

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Episode 2238: What to make of J.D. Vance's speech at the Paris AI Summit
Feb. 15, 2025

Episode 2238: What to make of J.D. Vance's speech at the Paris AI Sum…

So what to J.D. Vance's highly controversial speech at the Paris AI Summit this week? According to That Was The Week ’s Keith Teare, it was “a breath of fresh air”. Others will argue it was just more MAGA putridity designed ...

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Episode 2237: Matthew Karp explains how progressives can successfully bulldoze America
Feb. 14, 2025

Episode 2237: Matthew Karp explains how progressives can successfully…

“ Expect More Bulldozings ”, the Princeton historian Matthew Karp predicts in this month’s Harpers magazine about MAGA America. In his analysis of the Democrats' loss to Trump, Karp argues that the supposedly progressive part...

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Episode 2236: Colum McCann and Dianne Foley on what a mother said to her son's ISIS executioner
Feb. 13, 2025

Episode 2236: Colum McCann and Dianne Foley on what a mother said to …

What can a mother say to the cold-blooded executioner of her son? In American Mother , the heartrending story of the murdered American journalist Jim Foley, the writer Colum McCann and Diane Foley , Foley’s mother and founde...

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Episodes 2235: Jeffrey Toobin on whether we all deserve second chances
Feb. 12, 2025

Episodes 2235: Jeffrey Toobin on whether we all deserve second chances

If there’s anyone who knows the value of a pardon, it’s Jeffrey Toobin , the publicly shamed and now rehabilitated CNN legal analyst. In his latest book, The Pardon: The Politics of Presidential Mercy , Toobin examines the hi...

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Episode 2234: Walter Mosley on Easy Rawlins, King Oliver and the history of fictional black American detectives
Feb. 11, 2025

Episode 2234: Walter Mosley on Easy Rawlins, King Oliver and the hist…

The acclaimed American writer Walter Mosley has a new King Oliver book out: B een Wrong So Long It Feels Like Right , a novel that follows Oliver's search for both a missing woman and his estranged father who was released fro...

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Episode 2233: John Kay on why (almost) everything we are told about business is wrong
Feb. 10, 2025

Episode 2233: John Kay on why (almost) everything we are told about b…

According to the Scottish economist Sir John Kay , author of The Corporation in the 21st Century , the Magnificent Seven tech companies that supposedly control the global economy aren’t quite as magnificent as we are led to b...

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Episode 2332: Greg Beato on what could go possibly RIGHT with our AI future
Feb. 9, 2025

Episode 2332: Greg Beato on what could go possibly RIGHT with our AI …

So what’s it like co-authoring a book with Reid Hoffman, the multi-billionaire co-founder of LinkedIn and amongst Silicon Valley’s most prominent Democrats? According to Greg Beato , who just co-wrote Superagency with Hoffman...

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Episode 2331: The Week that Silicon Valley went from Woke to DOGE
Feb. 8, 2025

Episode 2331: The Week that Silicon Valley went from Woke to DOGE

It’s been quite a few days in Silicon Valley. "There are decades where nothing happens,” Lenin famously observed, “and there are weeks where decades happen”. As Andrew and Keith Teare reflect in their regular THAT WAS THE WE...

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Episode 2330: Eoin Higgins on how reactionary tech billionaires bought Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi
Feb. 7, 2025

Episode 2330: Eoin Higgins on how reactionary tech billionaires bough…

Wow. According to the journalist and historian Eoin Higgins, right wing tech billionaires like Marc Andreessen, David Sacks and Peter Thiel have “bought” prominent anti establishment journalists like Glenn Greenwald and Matt ...

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Episode 2329: Ethan Zuckerman on how the United States learned to love online censorship
Feb. 6, 2025

Episode 2329: Ethan Zuckerman on how the United States learned to lov…

Internet scholar and activist Ethan Zuckerman is horrified by the American ban on TikTok. As a self-described “progressive” with a long and distinguished career advocating for internet freedom, Zuckerman expresses alarm at ho...

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Episode 2328: A gay Jewish atheist rides to the rescue of American Christianity
Feb. 5, 2025

Episode 2328: A gay Jewish atheist rides to the rescue of American Ch…

Trust a gay Jewish atheist to defend the value of American Christianity. In his new book Cross-Purposes: Christianity's Broken Bargain with Democracy, the Brookings scholar and gay marriage activist Jonathan Rauch argues that...

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Episode 2327: John Lee Hooker Jr explains who gets to go to Heaven and who doesn't
Feb. 4, 2025

Episode 2327: John Lee Hooker Jr explains who gets to go to Heaven an…

Who gets to go to heaven and who doesn’t? According to John Lee Hooker Jr. , son of the legendary bluesman and author of From The Shadow of the Blues , many are called but not everyone is chosen. In the new autobiography, he ...

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Episode 2326: Mike Colias assesses the impact of Trump's Tariffs on the US Auto Industry
Feb. 3, 2025

Episode 2326: Mike Colias assesses the impact of Trump's Tariffs on t…

Few people know the U.S. car industry more intimately than the Wall Street Journal deputy auto editor Mike Colias . His new book, Inevitable , offers an insiders guide into what he sees as our messy, yet unstoppable transitio...

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Episode 2325: Charles Piller on Fraud, Arrogance, and Tragedy in the Quest to Cure Alzheimer's
Feb. 2, 2025

Episode 2325: Charles Piller on Fraud, Arrogance, and Tragedy in the …

More than 6 million Americans now suffer from Alzheimer’s Disease. So the stakes in find a cure for this neurological illness are huge. Too large, in fact, for some fraudulent American medical researchers. As the investigativ...

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Episode 2324: Why we need some Sputnik Thinking on Wealth Redistribution in our AI Age
Feb. 1, 2025

Episode 2324: Why we need some Sputnik Thinking on Wealth Redistribut…

A week is certainly a long time in tech. On last week’s That Was the Week roundup, Keith Teare and I were asking if Trump’s America was a tech oligarchy. This week is all about the so-called “Sputnik Moment” of DeepSeek, a re...

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