Episodes

Jan. 2, 2025

Episode 2291: Michael Scott-Baumann on the hopelessness of the Palest…

While most of us can at least hope for a happy new year in 2025, the same can’t be true for the Palestinians of Gaza and the West Bank. That, at least, is the view of Michael Scott-Baumann , author of The Shortest History of ...

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Jan. 1, 2025

Episode 2290: Marshall Poe on why 2024 was a bad year for most podcas…

Marshall Poe runs the New Books Network , a podcasting platform incorporating over 25,000 individual podcasts from thousands of podcasters and many millions of downloads. 2024, he acknowledges, was a bad year for podcasting b...

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Dec. 31, 2024

Episode 2289: Gary Marcus on how Artificial General Intelligence (AGI…

Gary Marcus is amongst the world’s leading skeptics on the AI revolution. So it’s worth taking note when Marcus admits that “of course we are getting to AGI eventually”. No, he says, artificial general intelligence (AGI) won’...

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Dec. 30, 2024

Episode 2288: Simon Kuper on the chilling parallels between MAGA Amer…

Is it entirely coincidental that some of the leading figures in the MAGA movement - including Peter Thiel, Elon Musk and David Sacks - all grew up in Apartheid South Africa? Not according to Simon Kuper who raised the alarm a...

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Dec. 29, 2024

Episode 2287: Joseph O'Neill explains how to resist contemporary Fasc…

Our job is to make Trump fail. That, at least, is the view of the writer Joseph O’Neill , whose essays in the New York Review of Books offer not just a powerful critique of Trump but also of the contemporary Democratic party...

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Dec. 28, 2024

Episode 2286: Seth Rogovoy on why A Complete Unknown, the new Dylan b…

As the author of the well-received Bob Dylan: Prophet Mystic Poet, Seth Rogovoy knows his Dylan. So his critical review of the A Complete Unknown , the much hyped new movie featuring Timothee Chamalat as a young Dylan, is wor...

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Dec. 27, 2024

Episode 2285: Toby Walsh on the revolutionary promise and peril of AI…

The Artificial Intelligence revolution has dwarfed everything else in tech during 2024. But according to Toby Walsh , author of the upcoming The Shortest History of AI , 2025 also promises to be a revolutionary year in the hi...

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Dec. 26, 2024

Episode 2284: Soli Ozel on the possibility of a 2025 "Pax Hebraica" i…

So what’s it to be in the Middle East in 2025: Mad Max style anarchy or a "Pax Hebraica" orchestrated from Israel? According to regional expert Soli Ozel , the Mad Max scenario is more likely - although, as he notes, many of ...

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Dec. 25, 2024

Episode 2283: Jonathan Rauch's six key moments of 2024

Time waits for no one. As 2024 winds down, what are the key moments of a year that perhaps overpromised and underdelivered? According to the Brookings scholar Jonathan Rauch , six events in 2024 captured the year’s zeitgeist....

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Dec. 24, 2024

Episode 2282: Adam Kirsch on the nonsense of "Settler Colonialism"

As both a much published poet and cultural critic, Adam Kirsch brings an etymological sensibility to the great issues of our day. In his new book, On Settler Colonialism , Kirsch excavates the nonsense now taken for granted b...

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Dec. 23, 2024

Episode 2281: Parmy Olson on why Google DeepMind will trump OpenAI in…

Bloomberg columnist, Parmy Olson , won the FT Business Book of 2024 for Supremacy , her story of the race between Sam Altman’s OpenAI and Demis Hassabis’ Google DeepMind for control of the AI ecosystem. Given that Parmy Olson...

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Dec. 22, 2024

Episode 2280: Who will win the multi trillion dollar race for AI supr…

Yesterday, we featured a conversation between Andrew and That Was the Week newsletter publisher Keith Teare looking back at the major tech events of 2024. Today, Andrew and Keith look forward to the upcoming year for big tech...

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Dec. 21, 2024

Episode 2279: Why 2024 will be remembered as the year before 2025

So how will future historians think about 2024? In tech terms, 2024 will probably be remembered as the year when AI began to become ubiquitous. Although, as Keith Teare and Andrew discuss in this special 2024 edition of THAT ...

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Dec. 20, 2024

Episode 2278: Max Stier on the Essential Value of the American Federa…

As Elon Musk continues to plot, with Trumpian glee, against the American Federal government, it is important to remind ourselves of the essential value of this state bureaucracy. As the founding president and CEO of the Washi...

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Dec. 19, 2024

Episode 2277: From “Science” to Atrocity - The Seductive History of E…

The supposed “science” of eugenics is one of the most dangerous myths of the modern age. As Erik Peterson, author of The Shortest History of Eugenics explains, it not only was used by Nazi thugs to justify the Final Solution,...

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Dec. 18, 2024

Episode 2276: Byrne Hobart on Booms, Bubbles and the End of Stagnation

There is a counter intuitive school of thought - represented by Tyler Cowen, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen - which suggests that America, for all its technological innovation, remains trapped by long term economic stagnatio...

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Dec. 17, 2024

Episode 2275: Jeff Jarvis on how the world has changed over the last …

The iconic DLD conference will be holding its twentieth annual event in Munich next month. Founded in January 2005, DLD has hosted many of the world’s leading tech thinkers and entrepreneurs from both Europe and the United St...

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Dec. 16, 2024

Episode 2274: Bethanne Patrick's Favorite Non-Fiction Books of 2024

Yesterday, we ran Bethanne Patrick’s five best novels of 2024. Today, we feature her top non-fiction of the year including new books about reality television, Robert Louis Stevenson’s wife and Handel's Messiah. ‘Tis the seaso...

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Dec. 15, 2024

Episode 2273: Bethanne Patrick's Best Five Favorite Novels of 2024

Pity the novelist. In a year which brought us the unbelievable non-fiction of a second Trump victory and the establishment of Luigi Mangione as an American folk hero, what can novelists do to stretch our imagination? But acco...

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Dec. 14, 2024

Episode 2272: Mark Lilla on why ignorance is bliss

For all the hysteria about misinformation and disinformation, maybe we prefer ignorance. That’s the intriguing thesis of the illustrious Columbia University intellectual historian, Mark Lilla, in his new book, Ignorance is Bl...

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Dec. 13, 2024

Episode 2271: Keith Teare on why he's fallen in love with Elon Musk

It’s been coming a while. But now it’s official. Keith Teare has declared his love for Elon Musk. In this week’s THAT WAS THE WEEK newsletter, suitably entitled “ I’m With Musk ”, Keith argues that without Musk “I have no ide...

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Dec. 12, 2024

Episode 2270: Craig Garnett on May 24, 2022 - Uvalde's Darkest Hour

On May 24, 2022, a 18 year-old walked into Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas and shot to death 19 students and 2 teachers. In Uvalde’s Darkest Hour , the owner of the local Uvalde Leader-News , Craig Garnett tries to ma...

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Dec. 11, 2024

Episode 2269: Michael Sayman looks forward to an AI age in which all …

While many of us fear a future in which all our online interactions are with algorithms, the young Florida based programming prodigy, Michael Sayman , actually looks forward to this brave new world. In fact, earlier this year...

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Dec. 10, 2024

Episode 2268: David Rowell on how new technology is making us dislike…

Yesterday, we featured a conversation with Jonathan Taplin about the dearth of high quality contemporary music and movies. The music writer, David Rowell , agrees with Taplin, but goes one step further, suggesting that we no ...

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