In Buenos Aires, Paul Rogat Loeb met a young Russian couple and asked carefully what it had been like. She told him that when Navalny came back there were big protests and she joined them; then the protests got smaller, the cost got higher, and now none of them do. His lesson is about leverage: a democracy that is closing gives you infinitely more of it than one that has already closed, because the mechanisms of a dictatorial state are far harder to move once established.
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